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Discussion Starter #162 (Edited)
I just had a dream in which i had gone to see the net practise session of australian pacemen brett lee and jason gillespie. I saw that infact their fitness level is not upto standards. Their run-up strides are not long and they infact just jog towards the wicket. Their bowling speed is also not that much quick. Like as in west indies tour, their bowling speeds are infact medium pace.

In the second part of my dream i was told that bowling out australia and new zealand batsmen is infact very easy in their own pitches!! Most asian pacemen from pakistan and sri lanka when bowling to australian and new zealand batsmen; have speed but lack co-ordination and line-length. But infact australian and new zealand batsmen have weaknesses towards correct fast pace line-length bowling. Perhaps it was devised as bodyline around the wicket bowling by douglas jardine. The aim is not to bowl rash bowling like bouncers, but modest swing line length. I also saw in my dream that australian batsmen got out very cheaply.
 

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I yesterday saw a very wonderfull test match of year 1992 between england and pakistan played at england. It was so entertaining and funny. The pakistan team was so funny they all looked alike, had the same features and hairstyle. So it was confusing even to me like who is whom, when even in batting one batsman came, then he got out and the next came...all looked same.
And england team cricket seemed very challenging.
In that match wasim akram and waqar younis were bowling at same high speeds.
But i found surprising that england paceman chris lewis speed was quick than them. Perhaps the speedgun was calculating wrong things. And chris lewis is said to be medium pacer. The deliveries from chris lewis were seaming at high awkward bounce and when struck with bat produced a big thwack sound in the stadium. When reaching the wicket-keeper too they have a hard take!!!
I think that pakistan pacemen then are mostly swing pace bowlers, while england pace bowlers are fine seamers. I don't know how they get awkward bounce, pace and power!!! Likes of darren gough, angus fraser, allan mullaly and andrew caddick are written medium pacemen but bowl good seamers.
Pakistanis had won this test match.
Then this match reminded me of the 1991 world cup final between england and pakistan. I was thinking that chris lewis was a medium pacer.
 

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I was viewing some test matches bowling highlights on youtube. So i came to know that kapil dev's bowling speed of his prime 128-133 kmph is very much similar rocking to the bat....just very much equal to the speed of west indian fast bowler courtney walsh!!! So whats the fuss? C.walch and others are not the fastest bowlers of the world, the speeds between 128kmph to 145kmph is negligible difference...
While shoiab akhtar speed was a little bit quick 144kmph.
Indian paceman javagal srinath used to say that his idol were wasim akram, while infact his line-length is very much same as imran khans!!!
While wasim akram used to say that his idol was imran khan...but imran khan's fan following, action, run up is very much different than wasim akram...!!!
https://youtu.be/E_VbxV_m2AU
If we see imran khan's time his five wicket hauls then it seems that season ball used is very much real...just a little bit light than the season ball available in india. It gives a whacky sound when imran khan pitches in the middle of the pitch and scares the batsmen thwack at the bat!!!
Bounces very little while moving to the fence...!! Than the season used from 1994, which seems like a rubber cork light weight ball which seems like childs play for many....!!!

https://youtu.be/IhXuX_f-bIk

https://youtu.be/70hvfJYjeiI

https://youtu.be/goRAbPy06zQ

Imran khan's run-up is also very short just eight to ten jogs, bouncer is very tricky, leg glance pitch really hits the batsmen hard and good pitch taked the stumps to a spiral.
While the modern day cricket like of glenn mcgrath, shoiab akhtar, shane bond....seems confusing....!!! Like as if light weigth ball is being used...!!!
 

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Discussion Starter #165 (Edited)
I was once viewing tv star sports or DD local channel in 1993 of cricket classics. There i had seen a documentary of some fast bowler. So after so many years i later came to know of him that it was infact new zealander fast medium bowler named sir richard hadlee.
So then i again studied him his bowling techniques and found cricket is again so amusing.
Sir richard hadlee's various five wicket hauls reached his mark to 400 + test wickets. Very tall fast bowler, its really a spectacle seeing the slip cordon and the batsman out as bonkers in tv real. The art is like touch of short pitch bowling of good length and getting batsmen out at slips or bowled.

https://youtu.be/lLBuB4WUoUI

https://youtu.be/0baHnWkjY8c

What could be the speed of sir richard hadlee bowling?!!
If he were super imposed in the time frame in comparison with modern day cricket fast bowlers against modern day advanced batsmen?!!! like as in lets say 1999..!!!?

Would he be able to take wickets? short run-up and line length. And the same bowleds, lbws, caught off the slips...in modern day...even left hander batsmen...!!!

Some deliveries seem like 140s kmph short pitch and some bowleds seem just 115 kmph....!!! just took the bails off the stumps..!!!
As the batsmen succumbed to sir richard hadlee's bowling tactics, and the opposition side becomes a laughing stock again. So that it would state cricket is not so easy sport to play than it is nowdays showcased as in T20s...!!!

So the modern day fast bowlers should inspire look up to sir richard hadlee's bowling....wicket to wicket...as a true english cricketeer.
 

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Discussion Starter #166 (Edited)
If one sees correctly in tv or have played first class cricket, one can notice that the speed of spinners bowling in cricket whether bowling with a season ball or rubber ball or baseball is one and the same. Even if a spinner chance his arm for a speed arm delivery the ball still comes with a somewhat fast speed.
So if i rate the speed of the fast/medium/spinner bowlers with scale 1 to 100 kmph rather than what is counted as with speed gun since two decades kmph is infact very slow.
If i stand in as batsman as against playing a test match against sri lanka say then in first two days i played 430 balls against medium pace sri lanka bowling of chaminda vass and p. wickeramasinghe. And against spinners ruwan kalpage, m. muralidharan, k. dharmasena, sanath jayasurya. Then in 430 balls i scored just 25 runs with no fours no sixes. And scoreboard read 150/4. So as i see the bowling spin through my eyesight comes in slow mo in less than just 25 kmph to most 40 kmph if read correctly on rating scale 1 to 100 kmph. Just some turn of the pitch seam conditions but its easily guessable and can easily be defended right throughout the day.
Comparingly the fast and medium pace bowlers bowl at just 67 kmph to 75 kmph.
World considered fast bowlers like shoaib akhtar is simply just a short heighted school lad and has speed to only 76 kmph to when it hits the deck the seam bounces at speeds 82 kmph. So he is infact a slow quick bowler. Sometimes his bowling speed in 1999 when bowling against india in tests his height health was lesser than indian spinner harbhajan singh. So harbhajan singh is 5'4", sachin 5'2" and shoiab akhtar 5'3". Some indian school boys seem sometimes quicker than shoiab akhtar bowling. Shoiab akhtar bowling speed sometimes is equal to steve waugh.
Comparingly bret lee considered worlds fastest bowler of australia is infact just a thin lad school boy who bowls at just 79 kmph to 87 kmph. not even 100 kmph.
Rarely once or twice they bowl a 98 kmph sometimes. Due to human limitations their speeds never go beyond realism that is to say as generalized as 130 kmph or to 160 kmph....which is perhaps impossible.
So i imagined the real speeds of former fast bowlers...
Allan donald- 89 kmph
Curtly ambrose- 81 kmph
Wasim akram- 78 kmph
Fanie de villiers- 85 kmph
Richard snell- 81 kmph
Adrian kuiper- 63 kmph
Andrew caddick- 70 kmph
steve waugh- 65 kmph

And spinners-
M. muralidharan- 25 kmph
Shane warne- 30 kmph
stuart macgill- 34 kmph
M. ahmed- 24 kmph
A. kumble- 29 kmph

so if these spinners were so slow...how did they able to get so many wickets in cricket? Is this even possible? their records seem fabricated...or the batsmen were so poor below standard that they gave away their wicket so easily? or whats the seeing viewers what credibility the spinners have so much?
Like anil kumble bowling in tests were like drub skidders bowls...like they after hitting the pitch just came to shin portion above ankle length of batsmen. And the commentators used to say varied conditions of the pitch today occassional bounce of the indian wicket. And the some bowlings of anil kumble came bounced just till knees...so the batsmen against others too try playing it away...is this all just mere acting?

Even fast bowling if its not seaming swing conditions, then 76 kmph bowlings are easily defended and played to the fence.

Funny that children highlighted in the cricket nowdays is not so much of any interest for their side? Should we include circus performances as well some clowns juggling to make atmosphere merry for children to view cricket as a sport?
 

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Deepak Chahar picked up a hat-trick en route his figures of 6/7 in the 3rd T20I vs Bangladesh to claim a couple of highly acclaimed records in the history of the sport
  • Deepak Chahar picked 6-wicket haul as India beat Bangladesh in Nagpur T20I
  • Chahar's 6 for 7 are the best bowling figures in T20I cricket
  • Chahar beat previous record held by Sri Lanka's Ajantha Mendis
 

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Since i have started to watch cricket matches, there are a few bowlers who had done in fast bowling.
Waqar Younis
Wasim Akram
Glenn McGrath
Allan Donald
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